Yes, the Haflinger name is trademarked in Austria, but not in the US as the
AHR has not pursued a trademark here, nor does the Tirolian Breeders'
Association defend their trademark in other countries. The spotted horse is
not worth wasting money on. Why are you so concerned about a fad that will
die all on its own without our helping it?
You converted correctly. I don't agree with the AHR I&C maximum height, but
I'm a minority opinion.
So what is your issue with AHR? Why are you not active in the organization
if you feel the Board is doing such a poor job? Shooting the messenger may
be satisfying for you, but it just maims the messenger. Get involved!
Emily
On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 3:30 PM, haflingerlover17 <spyro8788@aol.com> wrote:
>
>
> What would i suggest? I would suggest that the AHR gets a dictionary and
> looks up the definition of copyright and trademark.
> COPYRIGHT:"the exclusive right to make copies, license, and otherwise
> exploit a literary, musical, or artistic work, whether printed,audio, video,
> etc.: works granted such right by law on or after January 1, 1978, are
> protected for the lifetime of the authoror creator and for a period of 50
> years after his or her death."
> Though i do agree that the haflinger is beautiful, it is by no means a work
> of art in the sense that this means. Instead it is a TRADEMARK :
> "any name, symbol, figure, letter, word, or mark adopted and used by a
> manufacturer or merchant in order to designate his or her goods and to
> distinguish them from those manufactured or sold by others. A trademark is a
> proprietary term that is usually registered with the Patent and Trademark
> Office to assure its exclusive use by its owner."
>
> As for not posting a name, i didn't realize I was required to do so. And
> you say you follow the standards? Then how come that your maximum height
> requirement is one inch taller than theirs? If i converted it right, the
> max. height should be 59 inches, not 60inches and the minimum height
> requirement will only be an inch taller than what you post on your website.
> You say that horses are discouraged from breeding if they don't meet the
> height requirements BUT it by no means states you can't breed.
> I suggest that the AHR does some research. The Haflinger name IS
> trademarked in Austria.
>
> Kay
>
> --- In haflingerfriends@yahoogroups.com<haflingerfriends%40yahoogroups.com>,
> "haflingerlover17" <spyro8788@...> wrote:
> >
> > And you are just finding this out now?! I thought you were a director at
> large and you don't even know the updates from the WHF? I can understand
> some people being upset because they think their haflingers are going to be
> forgotten but quite frankly, like jaque said, the US doesn't operate on this
> system, and from what i come to understand the AHR doesn't follow the WHF
> standards for the most part anyway. It does surprise me that you are SO
> upset over 2 cm difference and everyone is acting like we are now just
> changing the haflinger's personality. Its the same horse, just a little
> taller. No one said it's still not a haflinger. It has honestly irked me
> that you are setting a double standard. You will sit there (the AHR) and do
> NOTHING to stop a man from cross breeding the wonderful Haflinger and this
> time with the intent in CHANGING the breed and try to take the haflinger
> name and promote them as such, but you'll be so quick to jump all of the WHF
> for a simple height change. Honestly from what i've learned and expereinced
> with the AHR i back the WHF way more. At least they are willing to do
> something for the breed. you said "especially at a time when Haflingers and
> Haflinger
> > breeders need support, not a slap in the face " but honestly that's just
> what you did to everyone about those whole spotted things. You drove people
> away. Why take a horse that'll soon be worth nothing when i can take a
> colored horse, one that'll sell just because it looks pretty. I love my
> haflingers to death, don't get me wrong I am not saying that we should breed
> the haflinger to be a huge thin boned riding horse. But if you are going to
> say that they don't know what people who love their haflinger's feel/think,
> then i think you need to step back and look at yourself and the situations
> that you've brought about.
> > --- In haflingerfriends@yahoogroups.com<haflingerfriends%40yahoogroups.com>,
> Emily Gibson <briarcroft@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Were any of you aware that there was a unanimous decision among the
> nine WHF
> > > delegates present at a WHF meeting in Ebbs, Austria in September 2009
> to
> > > raise the minimum height in the breed standard from 138 cm to 140 cm.?
> > > Failure to reach the minimum height results in exclusion of the
> Haflinger
> > > from breeding in the countries with mandatory classification.
> > >
> > > The new rule is under "Type" in the Breed Standards, downloadable from
> > > http://www.haflinger-tirol.com/en/world_federation/
> > >
> > > The required size is from 140 cm to 150 cm. The minimum size must be
> > > achieved, non-achievement leads to exclusion. The maximum size can be
> > > exceeded in the case of a good exterior evaluation.
> > >
> > > This makes me spitting mad. Not only is it excluding a large number of
> very
> > > fine representatives of the breed (who automatically become sausage in
> most
> > > countries when not approved for breeding), it continues to give
> permission
> > > for the breed to bred "up" with no upper limit. I'm so disgusted at the
> > > leaders in our breed, especially at a time when Haflingers and
> Haflinger
> > > breeders need support, not a slap in the face (or muzzle as the case
> may
> > > be).
> > >
> > > It is beyond time to consider an alternative Haflinger breed standard
> > > organization outside of the World Haflinger Federation (who ultimately
> > > control all the inspections of Haflingers world wide). They don't have
> a
> > > clue what people who love Haflingers feel is critical to preserve the
> > > character of the breed.
> > >
> > > Emily
>
> > >
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> >
>
>
>
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