Having 3 of your horses, I hope to never have to call you to take any of them
back, but rather call you to get more! :-) Shssss, don't tell the
roommate I said that!
Sandy
All I pay my psychiatrist is the cost of feed and hay, and he'll listen to
me all day. -- Unknown
In a message dated 2/15/2010 5:57:00 P.M. Mountain Standard Time,
rivervalleyph@yahoo.com writes:
Hi Everyone,
Wow....I'd say we sure do get in deeper as we go, huh? My feelings about
some of this is quit honestly, So. Other posts regarding this subject at
times stir my emotions and make a much bigger response. However, we are yet
left with the same ole question....Wow....I'd say we sure do get in deeper as
we go, huh? My feelings about some of this is quit honestly, So. Other
posts regarding this subject at times stir my emotions and make a much bigger
response. However, we are yet left with the same ole question....<WBR>where
are our haflinger breeders going and how do we keep moving forward with
progress...not recession? I know we get off at times about other breeds and
what they are doing or not doing. But don't forget that each and everyone of
us on this chat are here for the same reas
I too understand the "over-population" and yes, I'm quit good at math.
However, if everyone just quits breeding, everything, then what? Or how about
this....you folks that have such big ideas against breeders that are being
mindful, I have a serious question for you. Why than, if you seriously
believe there are so many free, unwanted, not good for society horses out there
in the world, why are you just sitting here? Reading....Writing
comments....I too understand the "over-population" and yes, I'm quit good at math.
However, if everyone just quits breeding, everything, then what? Or how about
this....you folks that have such big ideas against breeders that are being
mindful, I have a serious question for you. Why than, if you seriously
believe there are so many free, unwanted, not good for society horses out
there in the world, why are you just sitting here? Reading....Writing
comments....<WBR>Stand up! If you want to write..than write ideas..as comments
generally don't have much affect. Are you the same folks that buy these unwanted
critters, do you offer to feed them, doctor them, nurse them to health, tra
OK, well, that might have sparked a little fire in some of you, if so,
thats the intent. However, I do not know of many folks that want to do this.
To go buy, or get that unwanted spent horse that is 30 and crippled is not
what most folks want, however, many of those horses in that catagory are how
the breed as a whole is getting labeled. I do say that with sincerity. I
do breed. You bet I do. I have not shut down the whole operation here just
to appease folks that think it is ludicris. What is ludicris however, is
that people that have bred, have owned, currently have, ect. are wanting to
just bail out an leave someone else to blame for what they or cannot do. Many
of these unwanted horses are horses that need to be put down in todays
economy, not to say there aren't good folks to care for some of these types of
horses, but the fact is that our laws have been changed by people that
don't know or understand the true meaning of caring for these horses. Our
slaughter houses have diminished, the numbers have then increased,
however....here we are. Take on the responsibility if you dare to go get these
horses...fix them, put them down, whatever it is they need. Then come back and chat
a while. However, as some of you are peering down the side of your nose as
you read this, remember this, if ANY of those horses are horses from my
farm, you'd better be the first to call me!
You ask why do I continue to breed I know. But here is the facts. While
many of you have huge issues selling your horses, or do not want to raise
them, or whatever the case may be, here at Rivervalley striving for the best
is what we do, guaranteeing our horses and customers success is also what we
do, even when the guarantee is out-dated, we offer to buy back our horses.
Honestly I don't phone calls wanting us to buy back our horses, however, I
do get phone calls wanting to buy our horses, and many times have called
clients that have bought horses from us and tried to buy them back or tried
see if they wanted to sell them as I had someone else looking for just what
they have and guess what? Nobody ever wants to sell me my horses back for
some reason. Even when clients are having a rough spell, as one of mine is
right now....do you know that I am boarding my horse, free, while this
particular person gets their personal life sorted out. I have offered to take
the horse back, and I got not just a no, but heck no! So, that is another
reason why I continue to breed here. I did indeed cut back, however, I will
not cut off my nose to spite my face.
And, those of you wondering...And, those of you wondering...<WBR>.I have
owned many horses that needed rehabilitating. Some turned out great...a few
didn't make it I am sad to say. But I do put the effort out there. I do
know the amount of work that involves and the heart ache that can occur.
However, I do feel that if you can not take care of your horses, and you can't
find someone who will, then it is your responsibility to take the next step
if needed. Now, I am not a horse killer. Those of you that know me know I
am a very soft hearted person who believes in love, care, miracles, and
doing whatever I can to help my horses through things. But the facts are
simple I know. This is doing what is right in my mind and it is also in my mind
that when I see all these unwanted horses, I want to call these owners up
and tell them to t
If you think me breeding my horses is bad right now, so be it. But until I
don't have folks wanting my horses, or I can know longer do it finacially
or physically, I will keep on keeping on. I love this breed too much to let
a few dictate what I should or should not do! I will breed what I want for
a haflinger...If you think me breeding my horses is bad right now, so be
it. But until I don't have folks want
Just my FYI for the day....
Sincerely,
Dawn
Rivervalley Ranch
--- In _haflingerfriends@haflingerfrihaf_
(mailto:haflingerfriends@yahoogroups.com) , K Garriott <kagarriott@kag> wrote:
>
> Â Â No way the glut of unwanted horses is her fault at all.
However...for ANY of us to add to it is just about criminal under the current
circumstances. Are people just not getting it? We have no viable way to deal with
the already unmanageable excesses, and the well funded AR groups are doing
all they can to choke off what little outlet is left as well.
>
> Â
>   Do you all not read what the industry experts are saying? the sad
but very real phenomena that is upon us all? Beside the fact that there
is no longer any viable place to take the culls, cripples, and rogues we
now have the baby boomer generation reaching the age of 60 to the tune of
about 7,000 -10,000 A DAY! Our generation is THREE times the size of the up
and coming generation, and we have been by far the largest segment of the
horse owning population. We are fast getting too old to want to own horses,
and even starting to die off. Is anyone here good at math?
> Â
> Â Â Then there is this...the much smaller ( approx 1/3 the size)Â up and
coming generation is far more interested in riding a horse ( and even
cleaning its stall) via a video game rather than actually owning a real live,
pooping horse. Childhood obesity is on a frightening rise as a result, as is
juvenile diabetes and other obesity related problems. Are these the kids
you think your going to be raising horses for???? What big demand for more
horses than we currently have do any of you see for the next 30 or so
years? Please share if you do, because I don't see a hint of one.
> Â
> Â Â Every breeder has contributed to this current mess. The much fewer
but large scale breeder as well as the millions of back yard breeders. I'm
not laying any blame here, I don't think anyone thought that we would
ever see dumped, abandoned, free, and for all practical purposes worthless
horses. We used to always have a bottom dollar value, but that's just not so
anymore.
> Â
> Â I did not read the persons post about Jennifer so much as a personal
attack on her par say,as much as an attack on her idea of producing
cross-breds to register in yet another obscure registry. Â
> Â
> Â Karen G www.princesscarriagKaren
>
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