The grandsire in question is a British TB named I'm a Star. He is now dead but among his get included 6 advanced level event horses. This is an incredible number from one stallion. (Sort of like one stallion siring three triple crown winners.) Unfortunately along with the talent, he passed the spook.
Sylvia
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From: kiolak <kiolak@hotmail.com>
To: haflingerfriends@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sat, Feb 13, 2010 12:08 am
Subject: [haflingerfriends] Re: chocolate Haffie
Hi Marilyn,
LOL... Sylvia is trying to spell out to all people on this list (not just one individual) the effort and YEARS it takes to produce a good riding or even a competition horse. She is speaking of horses in general. The effort put forth into breeding for a quality horse - that is a good representative of the breed is only the beginning. A horses value lies beyond just good bloodlines, although that is a really good place to start! Her daughter's horse is not a Haflinger, but a purebred of another breed with a prestigious family tree.
I think it is ok for me to answer for Sylvia as she is a friend of mine and she is a well meaning and very well educated horsewoman. I respect her word. (plus she is most likely asleep right now on the east coast, as it is after 9 pm here on the west coast)
Your Haffiefriend,
~Kiola~
Brier, WA
--- In haflingerfriends@yahoogroups.com, Marilyn Mitchell <marilynmitchell61@...> wrote:
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> From: "sylviasmiskoe@..." <sylviasmiskoe@...>
> To: haflingerfriends@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Fri, February 12, 2010 8:42:01 AM
> Subject: Re: [haflingerfriends] chocolate Haffie
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> Raising a baby can be fun but folks should remember the other parts. My daughter has a home bred mare:
> pre-year - baby is conceived and grows in utero
> first year - baby is cute and learns basic manners
> 2nd year - baby is cute and learns more manners
> 3rd year - baby is an adolescent, learns more manners goes out for first ridden lessons
> 4th year - adolescent, is ridden lightly, spooks regularly, dumping daughter
> 5th year - adolescent continues being ridden, spooking, dumping daughter but less frequently
> 6th year - more of the same
> 7th year - mare begins competing in combined traning discipline, is eliminated on a regular basis
> 8th year - more eliminations than completions but jumping abilitiy and dressage talent begins emerging
> 9th year - well trained horse begins emerging, daughter goes whole year without being dumped,
> We hope for a good 10th year with no eliminations.
> Fortunately for the first 6 years my daughter had a 2nd horse she rode and competed. He reached retirement just as the homebred began to emerge as a decent equine. Would we breed this mare? No, all of her half siblings have inherited the grandsire's talent and spookiness. Even the best one lost his Olympic consideration as too unreliable.
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> Sylvia in NH
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> From: Molly McD <mollymcdonald@ columbus. rr.com>
> To: haflingerfriends@ yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Fri, Feb 12, 2010 10:35 am
> Subject: Re: [haflingerfriends] chocolate Haffie
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> Jen, if you're not out to find a broodmare and you really like her, and you think she's put together well, and you really like her, and you're looking for a companion, and you really like her, and you're up for the raising and training of a little one, and you really like her, and you're willing to wait to have a riding or driving horse, and you really like her, and if you want to purchase a horse now and there aren't many in your area, and you really like her........
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> It sounds like you really like her ;-)
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> Molly in Ohio
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> From: HRT
> To: haflingerfriends@ yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 9:51 AM
> Subject: RE: [haflingerfriends] chocolate Haffie
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> Well, I went to see the Haflinger fillies yesterday and I'm not sure what
> I'm going to do regarding them. I really, really liked the Chocolate
> Haflinger, how she was put together. Conformation wise she was good or what
> I want. Nice chest, nice legs, beautiful hip, beautiful face. Her mane is
> blonde but does have dark hairs in it, so that I wasn't overjoyed about.
> She also has a hind white anklet. Is it true that a white marking on a leg
> is not ideal on a Haflinger? The lighter chestnut I wouldn't purchase as
> she had a conformation flaw. I'm just not sure about the Chocolate girl
> though, I really like her, but. but. but...
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> I want to make sure that I am purchasing a youngster that meets and are
> favorable to the Haflinger breed standards. She's young, I'm not sure where
> or what I will be doing with her in the future so I want to make sure she's
> suitable for whatever endeavor we venture into. Please don't jump on me for
> saying this but I could find a Haflinger that was an ideal of the breed, I
> wouldn't be opposed to having a colt from her in the long future. I'm not
> interested in being a breeder, but I've always wanted to have a mare bred
> and keep the baby. I know it really wouldn't matter since my plan would be
> to keep her but we all know plans change, life happens, etc. and I want to
> make sure what I'm buying is within favorable breed standards.
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> Haflingers are so rare here in Northern MN I feel like I should purchase her
> just because of that, but I'm just hung up on the dark hairs in the mane &
> the white anklet. Does anyone have advice to share on that? Are these
> things that are frowned upon?
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> Jen in MN (Who is torn on what to do about that little Chocolate filly that
> she really likes and really hoping this great group of people have some
> sound advice to offer as they usually do)
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