--- In haflingerfriends@yahoogroups.com, "Karen" <tkharper@...> wrote:
>
> Jennifer,
>
> I didn't say I don't understand your decision. I think I have a very clear understanding of it. What I said was I can't think of a single REASON to do what you propose.
>
> Would you mind enlightening me with some details into all of your research and also your rationale for choosing to breed your Haflinger mares to this particular Gypsy Vanner stallion? What exactly are you hoping to achieve with this cross? There are some serious Haflinger breeders on this list who might want to discuss this with you further. I know I'd like to and I'm not a breeder, just someone who cares a great deal about the Haflinger breed. And the glut of unwanted horses in this country.
>
> My gut tells me your rationale is going to be pretty flimsy. There are some on this list who are leaping to your defense because you're young and I guess they feel like you need to be protected from tough questions. I think you would benefit far more in the long run from having to actually think through and answer the questions rather than continuing to dodge them and hide behind the idea that you're being personally attacked. YOU are not being attacked. I'm sure you're a fine young woman who loves her horses. It's your ACTIONS that are being questioned and that you should be prepared to answer for. And ideally this would happen before you are directly responsible for putting more foals on the ground simply because, as you say in your own words, in America you have the RIGHT to do so. That is the flimsiest of all reasons to breed horses or anything else.
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> I think you have some serious maturing to do in the area of learning about personal responsibility and the consequences of your actions. I sincerely hope you work on that before creating more equine lives. There is value in having respect for others whose wisdom and experience far exceeds yours. You can learn a lot from people like that if you open your mind and sincerely try to learn.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Karen Harper
> Florida
>
> --- In haflingerfriends@yahoogroups.com, "wapirose" <riatafaline@> wrote:
> >
> > Karen,
> >
> > Everyone has their own reasons for doing what they do. There is no reason nor point trying to explain those reasons when People already have their minds closed off to other things. I mean, look at the labradoodle for instance, I dislike poodles very much and wonder WHY would you breed a lab to a poodle? because someone somewhere in australia loved labs, but were allergic to them, well poodles being hypoallergenic would be a great mix for a lab right? So now you have a new breed. that has become quite popular. I still don't like them (see them from 3 breeders in my area and they are ugly to me. lol and a bit crazy too)
> >
> > I like to keep my mind open to just about everything if I can help it. When I first saw a haflinger gypsy sport horse foal I was impressed, so I've done 2 years of research in color genetics, bloodlines, and breeders of gypsies in the usa and uk. I feel I am now ready to move on with my program. This is not a fade or something on impluse. Don't be quick to judge, I keep reminding myself of that and think now before I post anything. If I would have just let loose on Kiola's um...heated post...I would have been seen as the bad guy or however you want to put it. I'm getting better with age. lol
> >
> > Just because YOU don't understand doesn't mean you have to. I don't understand a lot of things but hey, its water under the bridge and I just get over it and move on. :)
> >
> >
> > Jennifer in sunny california!
> > 76 degrees today whoohooo spring is almost here!
> >
> > --- In haflingerfriends@yahoogroups.com, "Karen" <tkharper@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Wow. I can't think of a single reason to crossbreed Haflingers with Gypsy Vanners. I'm pretty familiar with Haflingers and I've also known some Gypsies. The Gypsies I've known have been lovely (hairy) heavy cobs who made excellent driving horses. But I've tried to analyze this objectively and I just can't think of a single reason to cross the two breeds. What would be the qualities of each that could be improved upon by crossing them? What would you hope to maintain and what would you hope to change? And why? I would be very interested in hearing the rationale for this cross. I'm afraid I have to go with the brand-name trendiness factor here. If Gypsies are selling better in your neck of the woods but what you have on hand are Haflinger mares, then I suppose you can breed them and then emphasize the Gypsy blood when advertising the offspring?
> > >
> > > My problem with this scenario is not that silver and gold classified Haflingers aren't being promoted. It's the idea of breeding more crossbred foals in a down market without a sound basis for producing them. This probably makes me one of the dreaded elitists but I find that type of crapshoot mentality when making breeding decisions to be pretty irresponsible.
> > >
> > > Karen Harper
> > > Florida
>
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