What if the registry worked with another organization and combined resources. I would think that the more people you can get involved the easier it would be to raise money for the event and/or the organizations.
Beth
NW Ohio
--- In haflingerfriends@yahoogroups.com, Megan Huey <supplicantsacre@...> wrote:
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> As a newbee to this breed but coming from a breed that was established in 1732. I feel you would be shooting the breed in the foot so to speak. I think every breeder and owner wants their horses, the breed and the registry to be credible and accepted by the international horse community.
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> I have already witnessed first hand the political or "Boys Club" side to the Haflinger association at shows and at inspection sites. Giving individuals more freedom to be swayed by friendships or business alliances would be a fatal mistake.
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> I do like your willingness to put ideas out there to raise money for a breed that you are obviously passionate about. I say lets all brainstorm, Why not develop additional registry books. The registry I came from had a preliminary stud book, an official stud book and then the general registry for non-breeding horses and part-breds. When you have a foal born you register it for a fee, $72-125 Then if you want to have the horse moved up to the the PSB or OSB you pay another fee, $225-550 and have the horse inspected. Stallions are also licensed and owners pay a annual fee for the right to have the offspring registered and for free advertising and statisical information on the association website. There are other perks as well. Everyone wins, the stallion owner, the breed registry and the people who buy and show the offspring. There is a data base of information of stallion/offspring performance records. It makes it easier for people
> searching for a horse to purchase narrow their search based on the discipline and blood line they are looking for.
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> You have already got the ball rolling! Kudos to you! I am truly enjoying this breed so far, I love their kindness and willingness to please. They are also strikingly beautiful. I am going to copy and paste an article written by the president of another breed organization that deals with the inspection process and the responsibility of inspection committees. When inspecting a stallion or mare, these inspectors have no idea who the owner,sire or dam is and are in know way biased by A, B or C lines or relationships! Their decision to approve or deny entry into a stud book is based on what they see in the horse that day. To me this is credible and fair.Â
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> Just thought I would stick my neck on the chopping block with you!!!  LOL
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> --- On Thu, 1/7/10, HRT <hrhorses@...> wrote:
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> From: HRT <hrhorses@...>
> Subject: RE: [haflingerfriends] Raising funds ... something for non-registered owners?
> To: haflingerfriends@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Thursday, January 7, 2010, 9:40 AM
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> I second Sher on this. my guy is registered, but I'm looking at another that
> isn't. For some reason just having a piece of paper saying that he was a
> Haflinger, but not to be used for breeding (he's a gelding - *wink*) would
> make a difference to me. I would be one of those people who would pay that
> extra money to get a certificate that says she is a Haflinger based on his
> characteristics. Just more food for thought.
>
> Jen & Naverre
> In MN
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> From: haflingerfriends@ yahoogroups. com
> [mailto:haflingerfriends@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of RkyMtnTrls@aol. com
> Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 8:08 AM
> To: haflingerfriends@ yahoogroups. com
> Subject: [haflingerfriends] Raising funds ... something for non-registered
> owners?
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> I know I will likely get flamed for this ... wether it's politely or point
> blank ;-) .... but here goes, anyways ....
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> The ADGA, a national registry for dairy goats, has a second "sub" registry
> for grades. Many of these high pedigree goats cost as much to purchase as
> a quality horse - no joke, so no wise cracks about "it's just referring to
> goats" (wink!) They have a program for grade goats who meet the breed
> standards - conformation, etc - everything BUT the actual sheet of paper,
> the
> actual registration certificate.
> .
> There are many registries out there, that bring in a respectable income,
> that do just that - based on plenty of photos mailed in along with the
> registry's fee - showing all sides of the critter in question, mailed in to
> the
> registration for judging if meets the breed's standards. Heck, make it a
> two-part process - a fee for an AHR rep to look over the submitted photos,
> then if approved, the owner is informed and sends in a second fee which is a
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> membership fee.
> .
> What if AHR created a sub-registry for non-registered owners? There are
> MANY MANY of us owners of full Haflingers that are just missing that sheet
> of paper. And as far as an "experimental grade" (the phrase the ADGA uses)
> goes for breeding ... that's a simple thing ... make it clear the
> "experimental grade registration" means for that one horse only, not for
> breeding
> non-registered mares nor for breeding non-registered stallions. Just for
> riding / carting / whatever mares & geldings.
> .
> The whole point being, many owners who are very proud of their
> non-registered Haflingers would probably LOVE to pay for a registration
> certificate.
> Just something recognizing that their Haflinger as a Haflinger - of course
> the "experimental grade" would have to meet ALL the breed requirements for
> confirmation, with the consideration that *of course* the owner can not
> show pedigree. (If there was a pedigree record in the first place, the
> Haflinger would likely have been registered - so proving pedigree is a
> rather
> pointless requirement. )
> .
> The whole point of bringing this up is ... MANY owners of non-registered
> Haflingers would enjoy having a certificate, even if it was just under an
> "experimental grade" title. Even if it was with a firm no-breeding policy.
> I would be the first to pay up! ;-)
> .
> Again - I know that this is likely to get me flambay'd thoroughly ... but
> has to be said ... the non-registered Haflingers are a much overlooked
> "branch" of the Haflinger community, often spurned and scoffed by the
> registered "branch". ;-) But consider - if the AHR is so pinched and needs
> funding so badly ... rather than tap the registered folks who also are
> pinched for funds in this economy ... how about creating a special
> sub-registry
> and welcoming the non-registered Haflingers who meet the breed standards?
> *NOT* to breeding, applicable ONLY to that one Haflinger.
> .
> Just food for thought,
> Sher
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