Thursday, January 7, 2010

Re: [haflingerfriends] Raising funds ... something for non-registered owners?

John,
anyone who cares about the future tracking of a foal born on their farm will
register them, it is that simple. It has to be more about dollars and
cents, it is about the care of the animal in the future.

The big breeders aren't breeding much any more either, so this is an equal
opportunity depression. Lots of big breeders are leaving Haflingers as
well. The costs in the Haflinger registry are no different than other horse
breeds, and we have to keep an office open and staffed.

The Board is definitely willing to look at good ideas for fund raising from
the membership to keep things going.

Emily

On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 7:59 AM, John Borucki <r10a@aeroinc.net> wrote:

>
>
> Hello,
>
> With the prices of the registry is billing members and the price a
> registered Haflinger brings now a days. You get the same amount of Dollars
> for a grade...So why register them..I don't breed anymore...economy is not
> good and the back yard breeder (Ma & Pa) operations are folding up and the
> registry is hurting not having these small breeders.
>
> The little breeders once brought in allot of registry dollars for the AHR!
> But the little breeder can't compete with the big breeders anymore, so
> there
> are allot of grad Haflingers. I don't like THAT either, But in tuff times,
> people will bred what they want.
>
> You have to open the doors to all breeders! You have to welcome everyone
> into a association. The good old boy clubs are finding
> out................YOU NEED THE LITTLE GUYS TO HELP A ASSOCIATION BRING IN
> THE DOLLARS! Because once the little guys are gone. The word of mouth is
> gone to about the Haflinger horse. The little Fairs, shows and the showing
> of the breed not at the national level. The same people are always at those
>
> shows. The little county fairs and little shows is were I use to get people
>
> interested in the breed.
>
> I use to Register 5 to 10 Foals a years and then transfer dollars to new
> owners..I am gone and I know of 6 to 8 other Small breeders that are gone
> and guess what...The Associations dollars are gone too. You have to make it
>
> affordable for the small guy to stay in the Association!
>
> Thank you,
>
> John J. Borucki
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "HRT" <hrhorses@paulbunyan.net <hrhorses%40paulbunyan.net>>
> To: <haflingerfriends@yahoogroups.com <haflingerfriends%40yahoogroups.com>
> >
> Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 8:40 AM
> Subject: RE: [haflingerfriends] Raising funds ... something for
> non-registered owners?
>
> >I second Sher on this. my guy is registered, but I'm looking at another
> >that
> > isn't. For some reason just having a piece of paper saying that he was a
> > Haflinger, but not to be used for breeding (he's a gelding - *wink*)
> would
> > make a difference to me. I would be one of those people who would pay
> > that
> > extra money to get a certificate that says she is a Haflinger based on
> his
> > characteristics. Just more food for thought.
> >
> > Jen & Naverre
> > In MN
> >
> >
> > From: haflingerfriends@yahoogroups.com<haflingerfriends%40yahoogroups.com>
> > [mailto:haflingerfriends@yahoogroups.com<haflingerfriends%40yahoogroups.com>]
> On Behalf Of RkyMtnTrls@aol.com <RkyMtnTrls%40aol.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 8:08 AM
> > To: haflingerfriends@yahoogroups.com<haflingerfriends%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Subject: [haflingerfriends] Raising funds ... something for
> non-registered
> > owners?
> >
> >
> > I know I will likely get flamed for this ... wether it's politely or
> point
> > blank ;-) .... but here goes, anyways ....
> > .
> > The ADGA, a national registry for dairy goats, has a second "sub"
> registry
> > for grades. Many of these high pedigree goats cost as much to purchase as
> > a quality horse - no joke, so no wise cracks about "it's just referring
> to
> > goats" (wink!) They have a program for grade goats who meet the breed
> > standards - conformation, etc - everything BUT the actual sheet of paper,
> > the
> > actual registration certificate.
> > .
> > There are many registries out there, that bring in a respectable income,
> > that do just that - based on plenty of photos mailed in along with the
> > registry's fee - showing all sides of the critter in question, mailed in
> > to
> > the
> > registration for judging if meets the breed's standards. Heck, make it a
> > two-part process - a fee for an AHR rep to look over the submitted
> photos,
> > then if approved, the owner is informed and sends in a second fee which
> is
> > a
> >
> > membership fee.
> > .
> > What if AHR created a sub-registry for non-registered owners? There are
> > MANY MANY of us owners of full Haflingers that are just missing that
> sheet
> > of paper. And as far as an "experimental grade" (the phrase the ADGA
> uses)
> > goes for breeding ... that's a simple thing ... make it clear the
> > "experimental grade registration" means for that one horse only, not for
> > breeding
> > non-registered mares nor for breeding non-registered stallions. Just for
> > riding / carting / whatever mares & geldings.
> > .
> > The whole point being, many owners who are very proud of their
> > non-registered Haflingers would probably LOVE to pay for a registration
> > certificate.
> > Just something recognizing that their Haflinger as a Haflinger - of
> course
> > the "experimental grade" would have to meet ALL the breed requirements
> for
> > confirmation, with the consideration that *of course* the owner can not
> > show pedigree. (If there was a pedigree record in the first place, the
> > Haflinger would likely have been registered - so proving pedigree is a
> > rather
> > pointless requirement.)
> > .
> > The whole point of bringing this up is ... MANY owners of non-registered
> > Haflingers would enjoy having a certificate, even if it was just under an
> > "experimental grade" title. Even if it was with a firm no-breeding
> policy.
> > I would be the first to pay up! ;-)
> > .
> > Again - I know that this is likely to get me flambay'd thoroughly ... but
> > has to be said ... the non-registered Haflingers are a much overlooked
> > "branch" of the Haflinger community, often spurned and scoffed by the
> > registered "branch". ;-) But consider - if the AHR is so pinched and
> needs
> > funding so badly ... rather than tap the registered folks who also are
> > pinched for funds in this economy ... how about creating a special
> > sub-registry
> > and welcoming the non-registered Haflingers who meet the breed standards?
> > *NOT* to breeding, applicable ONLY to that one Haflinger.
> > .
> > Just food for thought,
> > Sher
> >
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