Emily
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From: Jeanne White <raisond_etre@verizon.net>
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2010 09:08:46
To: <haflingerfriends@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [haflingerfriends] A registry for non-reg.Haffies, like "Pinto Horse Asso"?
Not Emily, but "gray" if it was a true graying and not something else, is (I'm pretty sure) a dominant gene. The only explanations I can think of (and no aspersions on your "honor" -speaking in generalities) are a mutation or "somebody jumped a fence someplace" and the registered sire is not the true sire (which would be unlikely with DNA testing). What's left is a color change of a recessive sort that is not true gray (so could have sat in the gene pool a LONG time before being expressed?)?
Jeanne White in Southern Wisconsin
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From: John Borucki <r10a@aeroinc.net>
To: haflingerfriends@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sat, January 9, 2010 10:55:43 AM
Subject: Re: [haflingerfriends] A registry for non-reg.Haffies, like "Pinto Horse Asso"?
Emily:
I had two white Maned Registered Haflingers..Breed to my White maned
Afghan's Standard ROA Stallion that I still have and with much surprise..the
little colt had a Flaxen main! with a Flaxen tail.......then turned
gray...what do you think?
John J. Borucki
----- Original Message -----
From: "Emily Gibson" <briarcroft@clearwire.net>
To: <haflingerfriends@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2010 9:05 AM
Subject: Re: [haflingerfriends] A registry for non-reg.Haffies, like "Pinto
Horse Asso"?
> If you look at the AHR breed standards, and they are almost exactly the
> breed standards developed in Tirol, there are countless chestnut Quarter
> Horses, Arabians, Morgans, and pony breeds that would fit the standard.
> It
> simply is not feasible or advisable to use the breed standard to decide if
> something is a "Haflinger" or not. That is why so many buyers/owners have
> been led astray thinking they own a Haflinger when what they own is a
> flaxen
> maned chestnut horse between 13-2 and 15 hands.
>
> So there has to be some kind of pedigree history before anything like this
> can be remotely considered.
>
> Emily
>
> On Sat, Jan 9, 2010 at 6:36 AM, <RkyMtnTrls@aol.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>
>> Maybe if AHR is firmly against a "Registered Grade" category ... I wonder
>> ... is there a registry out there ... something like the "Pinto Horse
>> Asso"
>>
>> (which is a color registry) ... but ... that is for Haflingers who meet
>> the
>>
>> breed standards (but is *not* a color registry, but for those meeting
>> Haffie breed standards) ?
>> .
>> I am guessing not - since I have not seen a post on this list talking
>> about such a thing.
>> .
>> I wonder - would it be possible to found such a registry for those
>> meeting
>> the Haffie breed standards? \
>> .
>> And for those who might say .... what about the Half-Haffie or the
>> Spotted
>> Haffie .... well, I am musing over such a thing for those who meet the
>> Haffie breed standards. A Half-Haffie or Spotted Haffie would obviously
>> not
>>
>> meet the breed standards, so would not be part of the picture.
>> .
>> I would be interested in feedback on how a registry is formed. After all
>> - EVERY registry out there started off by someone (or someones) who got
>> together and got the ball rolling. ;-) Don't know if I could be the
>> one ... DO know I could not do it all by myself ..... but it's worth
>> voicing
>> the question ....
>> .
>> I think there is a serious interest from the non-reg. owners out there,
>> who
>>
>> would appreciate and enjoy a simple certificate recognizing their
>> Haflinger as a Haflinger .... and would be just fine with a no-breeding
>> policy, and
>> a "must meet breed standards" policy. ;-) Probably would even be
>> fine is they were excluded from showing/competition (bet many don't do
>> that
>>
>> anyways, so not even a "loss" in the equation ;-)
>> .
>> Sher and "EllieMae" in CO
>>
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