Yes I did see the 'for dressage purposes...' in your post and your right, I did not and still do not understand how that 'preserves' the back. But that is ok...I did mis understand it. I'm sorry, I've just had SOOOO many bad experiences with english riders being so snotty and upity that it is hard for me to 'be understanding' sometimes. I apologize. I've got two great friends that ride english and they are some of the few I have found to be easy to get around, course some western pleasure and others can be upity too. lol. One reason I do not care for showing, to political :)
I did not mean to 're write' your statement, yes your right I put it down as I intrepreted, again, sorry.
Anyways, thanks for the explanation. Have a great weekend!! It is sunny today so I am going to be trying to clean up some nasty muddy horses.
Jennifer in cali
--- In haflingerfriends@yahoogroups.com, "cedarglyn" <cedarglyn@...> wrote:
>
> Jennifer,
>
> 1. Please re-read the sections of my post which you are questioning. I wrote, "FOR DRESSAGE PURPOSES", I DO NOT ride my Haflingers bareback. It is a commonly held view among authentic Classical Dressage trainers that the "back be preserved" at all times by the use of a well-fitting saddle (reasons explained in initial post).
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> For those not familiar with Classical Dressage training (it's no crime, just your questions clearly indicate you are not, Jennifer) this may be quite a new concept; however, it has been around for many, many years and I certainly cannot take any credit for its invention. I just follow the example of a multitude of wise trainers before me. :o)
>
> I cannot explain Classical (very different from cowboy) Dressage in a post or two (although somewhere in the archives I once tried!). Numerous books have been written on the subject. For anyone interested, anything by Alois Podhajsky is a worthwhile read. Or anything by any director of The Spanish Riding School. Another good read is "Horses Are Made To Be Horses" by Franz Mairinger.
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> Or, "Classical Dressage" is an easy search on the internet.
>
>
> 2. Whatever are you "sheeshing" about? LOL Will you kindly, RE-read my statement! I wrote "do not encourage" (YOU translated my statement to "do not allow" so now *I* am thinking "sheesh". Please Do NOT re-write my statements, okay, and I promise to extend the same courtesy to you, agreed?
>
> ACtually, "do not allow" does not make sense to me because any equine will at times put their ears forward to check out the environment (ie, they are "checking-out" ON the rider to "check-out" their surroundings, usually with their 'distance' vision).
>
> My initial post merely said: I like my trusting mount's ears on me; *I* will be the one accepting the responsibility to check out our environment and keep us safe. <LOL> While I think both my Haflingers are extremely smart, I just happen to think God gave me the brains and my equines the brawn and we are to behave accordingly! ;^)
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> Jennifer, I actually give thought to what I write AND how I interpret what others write BECAUSE, to be totally honest, I don't have time to mundanely "chat" on any list, or make excuses for errors. AND, after four eye surgeries and macular degeneration, I can't spend great deals of time reading anything... I suspect that if you will carefully and thoughtfully reread my initial post, you will find your questions answered.
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> 3. Incidentally, a western saddle is definitely NOT safer than any other saddle and safety is not a legitimate excuse for using one; HOWEVER, if anyone "feels" safer in that saddle or prefers that discipline then that is the saddle with which he/she should ride.
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> 4. Finally, just to be clear, when I refer to "young", I am referring to impressionable teenagers who regularly read this list. To my mind anyone over 20yo is a responsible adult and should be able to process information accordingly (but I could be wrong). Judy in NE TN (now needing to gaze upon my Haflingers and, thus, rest my eyes.)
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> PS. Here's a question for you: how many Haflingers do I have?
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>
> "wapirose" <riatafaline@> wrote:
> >> Judy,
> > > Um, you don't ride any of the haflingers bareback because it is bad for them? am I reading that correctly?
> > > 'do not allow ears forward' that makes somewhat sense but sheesh...
> > Do you ride english?
> > > > > Jennifer in cali
> >
> > --- In haflingerfriends@yahoogroups.com, "cedarglyn" <cedarglyn@> wrote:
> >> > . . . . . . . (section deleted)
> >> >
> > > Additionally, for dressage purposes, my Haflingers are not ridden bareback--they are ridden with well-fitting saddles to 'preserve the back' so they can raise it "in trust" of the rider's leadership as they bend at the poll and their ears go to the side in attentiveness to their rider. (My older mare is responding well to this training method although she was not given this consideration by her previous owner/s.)
> > >
> > > We don't encourage ears forward, i.e., horse inattentive to rider.
> > > That statement may create another discussion of differing opinions!!
> > >
> > > Judy in NE TN (with rain and mud, dirty Haflingers and slippery terrain -- I'm eager for better riding conditions.)
> > >
> >
>
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