Wednesday, March 3, 2010

[haflingerfriends] Short Re: LONG Re: Preaching to the Choir

Well said Judy!!
Laura in Cal.

--- In haflingerfriends@yahoogroups.com, "cedarglyn" <cedarglyn@...> wrote:
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> Cari,
>
> It may seem idealistic, but I think getting along is attainable *IF* all posters keep several things in mind:
>
> 1. UNDERSTANDING .
>
> 2. To all NEW FOLKS (member's comments. Again, it is a matter of mutual respect.
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> 3. New members who LEARN (many join to share) have immediate access to all the ARCHIVES (located at top of page) containing over 10 years worth of information discussed on this list. (it's not about a person).
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> 4. ALSO, LEARNERS: And as human beings we like to feel "useful", not "used" (think about the difference!).
>
> 5 READ CAREFULLY (not just the first few lines and assume the rest), but the entire post. The WISE new member will consider the fact that these posts have not gone through numerous revisions and editing--they're spontaneously written.
> 7. My apologies to Emily, who I know posted a very comprehensive set of suggestions for each of us to follow when we joined this list. I appreciate your patience, Emily, and perhaps we could benefit from a review of those if you feel inclined to refresh our memories.
>
> Finally, there will always be people who leave this list. No one list could possibly satisfy all people at all times. Drama is usually best saved for the stage so if I ever leave this list it will be done quietly and without fanfare used to draw attention to ME because this list is not about me or any single person, it's about the Haflinger Horse. Cheers, Judy in NE TN
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>
>
> --- In haflingerfriends@yahoogroups.com, Cari Kilborn <carik@> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Cate, I agree with you 100%. I am a relatively new member here. Joined
> > in Feb I think. Since I have joined, there have been two battles. How
> > about we all just get along, huh?
> > ~Cari
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > >
> > >
> > > For what it is worth...and I am sure it is not worth much since I am
> > > new to this forum! I got the same impression as Jen and the latest
> > > post by the owner in TN that rants about others intelligence (or her
> > > presumtion of their lack of it ) is further confirmation to me of the
> > > kind of people that are posting here. WOW Did it ever occur to you
> > > that maybe they came here to learn from you all?
> > > I always go on the presumption that all people have something to teach
> > > me and that all people have value. I joined this 2 weeks ago to learn
> > > from you Haflinger owners and boy have I....I have no further desire
> > > to cram my inbox with this type of JUDGEMENT and garbage!
> > >
> > > Cate in MN
> > > signing off
> > > PS.. Jennifer in Cali -all your horses and pics are beautiful... I am
> > > envious right now! and Jen from MN hope to see you at the Expo!
> > >
> > > ____________ _________ _________ __
> > > From: Molly McD <mollymcdonald@ columbus. rr.com>
> > > To: haflingerfriends@ yahoogroups. com
> > > Sent: Mon, March 1, 2010 12:41:37 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [haflingerfriends] Preaching to the Choir
> > >
> > > Jen, it is a HUGE shame and it is VERY sad!!! I hate that you got that
> > > impression from this list!! I love most of what goes on here. Sure
> > > people are going to have differing ideas and it's not a bad thing to
> > > debate some of these things, but when it turns into personal attacks
> > > and passing judgement on others, it has gone too far in my opinion.
> > > Please don't leave the list because of what a few people have said or
> > > done, there are so many more that make it such a JOY to be part of
> > > this group! It is a wealth of information and support, I am very sorry
> > > that you had such a bad experience and got sucker-punched when you
> > > were trying to ask questions and share your excitement. Please
> > > remember that there are lots of us here that will NEVER do anything
> > > like that and that are thrilled to share in someone else's excitement.
> > > I hope that you are able to reconsider when the sting subsides.... ..
> > >
> > > Molly in Ohio
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: HRT
> > > To: haflingerfriends@ yahoogroups. com
> > > Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 11:27 AM
> > > Subject: RE: [haflingerfriends] Preaching to the Choir
> > >
> > > I agree Marilyn. I don't think you are being crabby. It seems whatever
> > > topic gets started it somehow branches to this discussion. As a new Haffie
> > > owner I have to say I'm getting discouraged by listening to these posts.
> > > Please don't misunderstand that I'm getting discouraged with the
> > > breed, just
> > > what type of people are associated with the breed. That said, I do have to
> > > say that there are some REALLY great people on here too. I know when I was
> > > looking at purchasing a filly and just 'mentioned' about possibly having a
> > > (as in ONE) foal out of her in maybe 6-7 years from now and just
> > > wanting to
> > > make sure I was purchasing something that was a good representation of the
> > > breed I got jumped all over publically and privately. Actually, I got a PM
> > > about purchasing a youngster and working with it myself, about how
> > > much time
> > > it takes, etc. it wasn't even on topic with what I was asking and
> > > automatically went into the breeding debate.
> > >
> > > I've since decided to keep my pre-purchasing questions to myself and am no
> > > longer sharing my excitement publicly (on here) for the breed. I think
> > > it's
> > > a shame and sad.
> > >
> > > -Jen in MN
> > >
> > > From: haflingerfriends@ yahoogroups. com
> > > [mailto:haflingerfr iends@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Marilyn Mitchell
> > > Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 9:31 AM
> > > To: haflingerfriends@ yahoogroups. com
> > > Subject: [haflingerfriends] Preaching to the Choir
> > >
> > > Sigh. You know, I really don't think any irresponsible backyard
> > > breeders are
> > > using this site. I know good will come from talking about the need to be
> > > careful when breeding our horses, but I'm tired of this topic. Yes, I can
> > > just skip these posts but it pops up in other threads.
> > >
> > > Or, how about a new branch to the topic such as what to do when one
> > > sees/meets someone who is ignorantly breeds their unfit mare/stallion
> > > to see
> > > what it'll throw. Or, organizing in some way to require licenses to breed
> > > horses. I'm not against responsibly breeding out-crosses. People breed
> > > unfit
> > > purebreds, as well as mixes. I'm not into trendy pets. I'm just tired of
> > > this topic. Nothing new is being said.
> > >
> > > Or, if you have a beef against one particular person continue that
> > > conversation privatley.
> > >
> > > Sorry to be such a Scrooge. I'm against irresponsible breeding,
> > > too,...but I
> > > have geldings and no interest whatsoever in breeding. Plus, I've been sick
> > > for the past week and a half and am just feeling well enough to be crabby.
> > >
> > > I'm afraid I'll be hated on now. Oh well.
> > >
> > > Marilyn
> > >
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