I Figured showing pictures was a heck of a lot easier than trying to type out an explanation. That first stallion I listed, Max, is what I truley fell in love with when I first saw him in person three years ago. I never liked his pictures all that much, but they aren't the greatst. I will post some pictures of him that I took and let you all know...in fact I think I've shared some of his pictures here before. His owner is also a firm 'drafty' lover of the haflingers. She inspires me with my haflinger dreams of breeding and such. Smart lady with TONS of knowledge
Jennifer in cali
--- In haflingerfriends@yahoogroups.com, "equinecop1" <equinecop@...> wrote:
>
> A picture is worth a thousand words!
>
> Carole with Chunky
>
> --- In haflingerfriends@yahoogroups.com, "wapirose" <riatafaline@> wrote:
> >
> > Kiola
> >
> > Here is what I believe to be 'modern' vs 'classic'
> >
> >
> > From the AHR stallion list that I feel are more drafty and 'classic':
> >
> >
> > http://www.haflingerhorse.com/assets/breeding%20stallions/MaxJMN.JPG This stallion is down the street from me and has a presance like no other haflinger stallion I've met!! AMAZING bone and size to this 14hander
> >
> > http://www.haflingerhorse.com/assets/breeding%20stallions/MedicineManHD.jpg
> >
> > http://www.haflingerhorse.com/assets/breeding%20stallions/MurphysKemoSabe.jpg
> >
> > http://www.haflingerhorse.com/assets/breeding%20stallions/MyMightyMagicRCO.jpg
> >
> > http://www.haflingerhorse.com/assets/breeding%20stallions/ArbitratorAXT0001.jpg
> >
> > http://www.haflingerhorse.com/assets/breeding%20stallions/NaustarJPH0001.jpg
> >
> > http://www.haflingerhorse.com/assets/breeding%20stallions/NewsmongerMJE.jpg
> >
> > http://www.haflingerhorse.com/assets/breeding%20stallions/NobleByDesign.jpg
> >
> >
> >
> > Now for some of the more 'modern' skinny tall leggier type haflinger stallions standing, the ones I personally do not care for their looks
> >
> > http://www.haflingerhorse.com/assets/breeding%20stallions/A-Rock.jpg
> >
> > http://www.haflingerhorse.com/assets/breeding%20stallions/AlertRWF3.jpg
> >
> > http://www.haflingerhorse.com/assets/breeding%20stallions/Stars%20%27N%20Stripes%20TOF%20summer%20%2799.jpg
> >
> > http://www.haflingerhorse.com/assets/breeding%20stallions/Wildfire.jpg
> >
> > http://www.haflingerhorse.com/assets/breeding%20stallions/AlphaTOF.jpg
> >
> > http://www.haflingerhorse.com/assets/breeding%20stallions/amadourTOF.jpg
> >
> > http://www.haflingerhorse.com/assets/breeding%20stallions/AristocrtTOF.jpg
> >
> > http://www.haflingerhorse.com/assets/breeding%20stallions/NeumeisterTOF.jpg
> >
> >
> > That is MHO
> >
> > Jennifer in cali
> >
> > ps: yes some of the 'modern' haffy's I listed have great conformation, I used to be on the horse judging team in FFA...but it is just not what the 'draft pony' haflinger is. IMO
> >
> > --- In haflingerfriends@yahoogroups.com, "kiolak" <kiolak@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Help me out here Emily, what are you disagreeing with me about?
> > >
> > > I can only guess that you disagree and feel that a taller horse has a hotter temperment, perhaps referring to this statement I made:
> > >
> > > Sun Jan 10, 2010 1:03 pm, message #109835
> > > --- In haflingerfriends@yahoogroups.com, "kiolak" <kiolak@> wrote:
> > >
> > > "Do I think height will effect the horses mind?
> > > ABSOLUTELTY NOT! That is like saying shorter people are better than taller people. How ridiculous is that? It is also quite insulting."
> > > In the next part of my post, I stated this:
> > > "We can all enjoy all the different body types of Haflingers. To insist that one is better than the other is just wrong. A well put together horse is just that, and a person is fortunate to own one. A good mind in a horse is worth it's weight in gold."
> > >
> > > I would really like to know what people consider to be "drafty" types and what people consider "modern" types. I have seen a number horses belonging to the people who have posted, and I have to say, even though some people feel their horse is "drafty" I don't agree. I think they are perfect, right in the middle of the road Haflingers.
> > >
> > > I also have seen some shorter Haflingers who are fine boned... go figure. I have personally met and ridden a few 13 hand Haflingers who are looney as March hares, and a few who are horse sized (over 14.2) who are completely sane and trustworthy. I see no correlation between height and temperment.
> > >
> > > What am I getting at here??? And why would I get peeved about inferance being made?
> > >
> > > I think some people would claim that a "modern" Haflinger is one who is over 14.2 hands (so horse sized).
> > >
> > > Since my VERY SANE, long legged (yet has a cannon bone of over 8 inches circumfrence) almost 14.3 hand mare came from a sire who is 15 hands and a Gold rated dam who is 14.3 (both of whom I have spent time around and find to be very tractable in their temperment) I take exception to the fact that people would claim a "modern" (see my definition above) Haflinger is not desireable because they do not have good minds.
> > >
> > > Now, if we are talking about Haflingers who are much taller than 15 hands, I can not comment, as I have only met a few and only briefly. The ones I have met, have had good sized cannons as well, not at all fine boned. As far as I know, they had good minds, but to really know that I would have had to have ridden them all. I rode one once in VA, who I would love to have seen trained up for dressage, as his movement was terrific. He seemed pretty darn sane too... and very smart.
> > >
> > > I live on the West coast, and I really have not seen gigantic (over 15.2) Haflingers here... maybe there are more in the East or perhaps in Europe? I haven't been to Europe, so I don't know much about those. I have been to the East (Virginia) and met a number of Haflingers there at the first East Coast Haflinger gathering. The ones I met there were all pretty much of standard size. I also have owned a Haflinger who came to me from Virginia, and he was 14.2.
> > >
> > > So what may I ask do we disagree on Emily?
> > > also, to the rest of the people patient enough to read to the end of my ramble:
> > > What does a Drafty Haflinger and a Modern Haflinger look like to you?
> > >
> > > Your Haffiefriend,
> > > ~Kiola~
> > > Brier, WA
> > >
> > > --- In haflingerfriends@yahoogroups.com, briarcroft@ wrote:
> > >
> > > > And I agree about the large heads--they came quickly in 1-2 generations as the Tirol breeders tried to breed quickly for height and neck length. Unattractive, absolutely. Temperament also took a backseat during those years, in my opinion so I disagree with Kiola on that.
> > > >
> > > > Emily
> > > > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: "rivervalleyph" <rivervalleyph@>
> > > > Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2010 21:22:12
> > > > To: <haflingerfriends@yahoogroups.com>
> > > > Subject: [haflingerfriends] Re: Into the fold ....breeding out the Drafty
> > > > ALSO, one other disturbing thing to me... The original haflinger from Temple Smiths farm as well as Austria and other parts of the country had a gorgous, araby head, not a big head! I am not saying that all haflingers have that head today, it is sought after however, and known by almost all breeders to be the "old style" head that people wish they had more of today!
> > >
> > > > Dawn
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
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